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it's the higher side jets podcast but

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you can call it thc

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always talking french ideas digging up

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conspiracies

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stuff they don't want you to know it's

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the stuff we want to see

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that's life here on the higher side

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it's the place for me it's my favorite

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where the guests are great and my mind

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gets blown the highest

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that's life here on the higher side

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hello hello hello higher side chatters

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welcome to the first

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joint session of the podcast format

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variety

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i'm sure most of you are aware i started

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the zoom room chats two years ago

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as a way to add something to the monthly

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thc plus offerings

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that would be in a video form for once

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and would also

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fold audience participation back into

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the mix something different

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and i did enjoy them a lot especially

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when we really got going there and we

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started to have regulars

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we started to get most of the people who

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on video with me and we'd often share a

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smoke or a drink

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and it was just a really good hang my

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favorite part still

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was people calling from work which

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surprisingly often we're switching it up

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a lot of reasons mainly because they

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just aren't popular

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a very small amount of plus members

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actually checked them out

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but also the feedback i got from them

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not so much negative but the most common

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was can i get this as a podcast

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and i get that as a subscriber of other

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podcasts

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if it's not something that's in my rss

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i'm probably not going to take the time

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to go and access it

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but other feedback would be i had my

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hand up for 40 minutes and you didn't

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pick me

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or you picked the same people every time

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i'm in the uk and i'm never available

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when you do these

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or i'm a plus member and you

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let too many free listeners talk when i

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wanted to talk

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that's the sort of thing i'd hear way

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more often than hey that was really cool

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i'm glad we did it and so you know those

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things stack up

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also i would hear that people have

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stories to share

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but they're too nervous to do it on a

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live stream that came up a lot

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so this new structure solves all

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of those problems because it is in your

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rss feed now like a regular podcast

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and using the forum for the audience

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engagement means you can write in

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at your leisure rather than being here

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at a specific time

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i can decide what to pull out of it so

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we'll make sure a few people don't over

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and free listeners don't have access to

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the forum so

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it will always be our inner circle plus

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people who are contributing

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i never really thought about a lot of

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these issues when i started plus

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but i can understand how someone

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maybe feels entitled to get on the joint

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session because they

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pay the price and other people i call on

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say you know i've never been a plus

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member but i'm thinking about it like

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that's probably

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frustrating but to me this does solve

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even if i think some of those criticisms

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all we really lose is the live aspect i

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thought live was fun

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but i'm also not my best on the fly

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that's clear and nobody really is and

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edit here

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and there is something even the best of

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some of my colleagues just don't want to

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but it's been part of the thc recipe

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forever

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so why fix what ain't broken

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so not only do you get a better me but i

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can do these whenever i have the time

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it was starting to happen more and more

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it's just better to have flexibility

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why are we not doing everything on

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convenience so i just

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sessions but here we are

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because i am going to be pulling out the

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stories and the theories and the

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experiences that you guys post

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q a forum thread which gets a lot more

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but i haven't been able to do a q a

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bonus show in a long long time

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so it's a way to combine both and maybe

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them to be focused on

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shoehorned in and it takes away from the

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everyone free and plus listeners just to

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communicate the change to all you guys

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so nobody is in the dark as to this

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because i will get a lot of emails about

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it and i doubt

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it's enough to get anyone to actually

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sign up for plus but there will be

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something like this every month on top

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warm up so maybe for the next one

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let's fill it up a bit more you know

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edifics asks what is going on from your

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with seven questions they say looking on

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that's why they get so important to just

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for them to say you need the vaccine to

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out trump in critical weeks before the

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a lot of careful planning over

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how her disclosures will come out and

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they're gonna fall on i think the deals

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one way or another by being selective

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right now more than the media is going

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mild compared to what she's actually

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sexual purposes during the specific

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sweetheart deal

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you have that's kind of what i think is

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going on i don't know how it'll shake

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out but i think she's been playing ball

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with the fbi for a long time where's the

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perp walk video

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where's the mug shot you know there's a

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lot of theater going on

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and she holds a lot of power for the

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masks being mandatory they say not yet

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here in finland

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but some talk about them this week

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even the thl our cdc says they don't

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work

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we should just use them as a reminder to

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fear

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kovid well i mean number one was

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mandatory

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masks

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public spaces for a while

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here in san diego it's not nearly as big

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of a deal to me

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because i'm not worried about this thing

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i'm not living in fear so yeah i throw a

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bandana on

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i walk in i walk out i get what i need

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no problem

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i hate it but i'm not looking to draw

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attention to myself and get into some

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weird conflict with some

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radical person and people say well where

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does it end

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for me it ends at vaccines i will not

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get one

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i'll wear a mask but you're not going to

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inject something into me

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especially not these people and these

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companies that don't have

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the best track record with safety

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studies

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and doing things for the common good

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number five hydroxychloroquine ban

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i doubt that people in the know are

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using it successfully and i think

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they're

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content just to keep it out of the news

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and confuse the masses on it

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the damage control has done its job just

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fine i would say

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number six trump delaying the election

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what happens if that happens in your

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opinion well

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chris knowles definitely thinks that it

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can and will happen

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i wouldn't be surprised i guess i agree

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i'm not too worried about it

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except that each side is so convinced

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that if they lose it's because of

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cheating

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that that makes a real recipe for

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rioting no matter what happens

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so i'm just gonna focus more on my local

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elections because

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they're actually pretty hard to get good

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information on

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and i think it's very important if you

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have a local candidate who

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is resisting the smart city thing or

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5g or the smart street lights that

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record

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all the video and audio that's going on

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you should know about that and you

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should try to support that candidate

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i think this year has shown us that your

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local government

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makes a big difference when big

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operations are going on

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so worry less about biden and trump and

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more about that

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seven social media bans people every day

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for nothing really

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yeah that's a concern and i assume it's

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going to continue

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probably going to happen to me

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eventually i don't care about social

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media i am lucky to be in the position

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that i control my own website and

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i try to urge people to go there to get

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my content

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and it's just like the old days of the

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internet that's what we used to do we

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used to go to specific websites

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if you didn't know about it then you

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didn't know and then we let social media

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corporations become the middlemen

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between us and our own audiences

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so when your 60 000 twitter followers

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don't know why you don't post anymore

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there's no way to contact them there's

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no way to email them and say hey we're

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all doing this now

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it's important to not let other people

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get between you and your audience if you

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are a content creator because this is

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your

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important

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and ps they say also about the union of

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the unwanted

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are you going to set your free version

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of the show

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up on tommy g's website are you going to

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join them

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when they are live again or not

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uh yeah i actually did i think they've

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gone

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and done three or four shows i've been

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on two of them

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the union of the unwanted for people who

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don't know is a big collection of

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alternative media personalities and

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podcast

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hosts who have come together mainly to

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brainstorm and try to support each other

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in the face of these social media bands

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and d platforms

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i have joined like i said a couple of

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the calls and i'm thankful to have been

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included

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but as i told them recently we're all

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sort of doing our own thing some people

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have podcasts

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some have youtube shows some do audio

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some are doing video

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so there isn't a blanket answer that's

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going to work for all of us

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we can't all just go to a certain

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platform

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what i proposed just to keep it simple

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is that we all keep doing our own thing

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but we have a loose

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agreement amongst the people in this

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union

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that if any one of us is d-platformed or

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kicked off by any of the big guys

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we put the word out to the little email

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thread we have

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and then we agree to make a mention of

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it on all of our shows

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nothing huge but just a little hey there

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guys

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sam got banned from twitter again find

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him here

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or something like that because the worst

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part of getting

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kicked off from something because i've

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been putting youtube time out and i've

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been put in twitter

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timeout the worst part is losing all the

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people that you're connected to and just

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having no way to communicate with them

447
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so this would turn a negative into a

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positive almost because yes

449
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you lose your twitter but your

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colleagues all give you

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a short plug and inform our larger

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conspiratorial community

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that you got hit it's a little bit of a

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silver lining right

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i thought that was a simple and fair

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solution

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that would work for everyone no matter

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what their format is

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so the guys who came back in that thread

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and said that they'd be down to do that

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for me

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i will do that for them in return if it

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comes to it

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but i don't think i'm gonna post thc any

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new places

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because i've built this system where

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facebook twitter and even youtube

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are of limited importance and i will

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just use them until i can't anymore

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and as long as i'm connected to my plus

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people

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and they know that the website is where

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it's at

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we should be fine and as i've said

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before i will send you cds in the mail

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if i have to

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so maybe we do need that post office but

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i'll definitely

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join the union of the unwanted swap

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casts when i can

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but there's like 20 people on the call

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so it's hard to get a word in really and

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i don't know it's a great thing they're

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doing trying to be less vulnerable in

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general

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and i like it but i don't know if we

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need to release these

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kind of shows all together when we could

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just have this

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private agreement to not let any of us

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get

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completely blacked out from

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communicating to the larger audience and

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uh so moving on the only other real

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thread starter in the joint session

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thread was

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no idols who says it could be

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really nice to talk about how to make

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the best of the state of the world

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given how extreme things are getting on

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a material and metaphysical level

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how have you been dealing with things

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which of course is more of an open

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question so if you'd like to talk things

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through with him

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hop on that forum and get engaged

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as for me i'm doing all right all things

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considered

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i am worried about the future but i am

510
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positioned pretty well

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compared to any other job i ever had

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it would have been devastating to not

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know if and when i could work

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do i have a job or not you know that's

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the experience

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for a lot of people that i'm close with

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and san diego has so much to do

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with my mental health not the government

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but

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the land the area the weather being so

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great all the time is such a huge

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factor because my buddies and i can

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go play frisbee golf we could rent boats

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on the weekend

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we can go snorkeling we can take out

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paddle boards

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we can get high and hike a mountain and

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three-fourths of our restaurants have

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found a way to operate

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outdoors so we can go out and eat

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and take the masks off as soon as we sit

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down

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i just can't imagine being anywhere else

534
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if you don't have the ocean and you have

535
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mosquitoes and humidity

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that makes a big difference being

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outside

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sitting down for a meal in missouri

539
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would not be so fun

540
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so in certain areas of the country

541
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that's probably a lot more challenging

542
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my wife and i have about six couples

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that we're close with

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and we sort of made a loose agreement to

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just see

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each other and hug and just not worry

547
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about it when we're together

548
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we share joints and nobody has a problem

549
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although there are times when someone

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is say going to see a new baby in the

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family or

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something and they take a two-week

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timeout

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and that has happened here and there

555
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these are uncharted waters

556
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but outside of wearing a mask when i go

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into a retail building

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i've gone out and done about as much as

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a person

560
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can i didn't get to go take my big peru

561
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trip with gordon and

562
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see the shaman do ayahuasca but outside

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of being limited to

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just my city i've had plenty of fun

565
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in 2020 on a personal level my buddy and

566
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i were talking the other day

567
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and we both agreed that even though

568
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everything really sucks

569
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looking back since march we've probably

570
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had

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as much fun as people can have

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in 2020 and i'm content with that

573
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,440
i'm not afraid of a virus i'm not saying

574
00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:51,120
i couldn't get sick but i don't seem to

575
00:20:53,750 --> 00:20:52,960
be in any of the categories in which

576
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:53,760
that would be

577
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:57,360
a very bad time for me so mentally

578
00:21:01,029 --> 00:21:00,240
it's just about some annoying compliance

579
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:01,039
things

580
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,440
i wear the bandana for a mask as i said

581
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,200
just because i want it to be

582
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,919
the least troublesome for me and who

583
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:09,200
cares if it doesn't offer

584
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:12,559
great protection so to speak so

585
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,480
we can't change the world we can just

586
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,080
maneuver ourselves through

587
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:19,440
it however feels best for us and

588
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:21,440
in my personal life or during my

589
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:22,559
day-to-day

590
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,280
it's best to just ignore it and have

591
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:27,840
some good laughs with good friends

592
00:21:33,909 --> 00:21:31,200
or at least try with each month

593
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:33,919
more fear tends to just melt away to the

594
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:34,559
point that

595
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:38,159
these six couples i'm sure over half

596
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,919
would resist getting a vaccine now

597
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,679
because they'd probably see

598
00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:44,159
no need for it me and my wife of course

599
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,280
will never do it

600
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:47,679
but the rest really isn't my business

601
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:50,320
right your body your choice

602
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:53,360
so that's that let's uh let's add some

603
00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:54,559
more stuff

604
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:57,840
before we do this again next month but

605
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,600
if we jump over the q a thread yail

606
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,480
writes all the hard and great work

607
00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:06,480
you've put in has made thc one of the

608
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:08,799
most interesting conspiracy podcasts

609
00:22:12,789 --> 00:22:11,600
with consistently good and ideologically

610
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:12,799
varied guests

611
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:15,280
and just a great environment for sharing

612
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:16,000
ideas

613
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,120
well thanks i wonder what you see for

614
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:20,880
the future of thc

615
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,880
do you plan to become a part of

616
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:24,159
conspiracy events

617
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:26,320
or expanding the type of content you

618
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,520
provide

619
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:30,240
i'm just curious as to how you see your

620
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,039
role in the general conspiracy community

621
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:35,360
and if you are looking at ways to get

622
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:37,039
more people involved

623
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:38,640
thank you for the great content and

624
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,440
information your podcasts have been

625
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:43,280
really valuable and seen

626
00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:45,600
through new lenses and challenging my

627
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:47,120
positions

628
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:50,559
dude too kind thank you right off the

629
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,440
top

630
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,159
but i do plan to just try and keep doing

631
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,720
what i do and maintain a high quality

632
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:58,320
and high variety

633
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,760
as you said i know a good sliver of our

634
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,679
audience thinks that i really stepped in

635
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,960
it with the angela

636
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:06,799
davis show and with the smith and

637
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,039
hattery episode right on top of it

638
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,039
policing the black man and policing

639
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:13,200
black bodies really similar stuff there

640
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:14,400
i know

641
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:17,600
and i was originally going to really

642
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:20,320
unload over this issue during this solo

643
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:21,280
show

644
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:24,960
but as times passed i'm kind of over it

645
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,600
you know if you go back we did two shows

646
00:23:31,830 --> 00:23:29,360
first that looked at the george floyd

647
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:31,840
situation as pre-planned bait for the

648
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,799
outrage

649
00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,880
we looked at all the curious details

650
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:36,640
with stuart bramhall and

651
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:40,240
also mentioned it with james corbett

652
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:43,440
and i think at least one other guest so

653
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:44,320
once we did

654
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:47,039
that i got some feedback to the effect

655
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,159
of

656
00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:50,159
hey this event might be staged but

657
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,400
people are protesting much more than one

658
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:54,240
killing things have been unfair for a

659
00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:55,279
long time

660
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,440
and they use the criminal justice system

661
00:24:02,789 --> 00:23:59,279
as a weapon against black people

662
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,799
that's a staple in this country and

663
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:05,200
i really do agree with that i don't

664
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:06,159
think murder by

665
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:08,799
cop is the best evidence of it i would

666
00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,200
cite

667
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,360
the war on drugs the harsh punishment

668
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,760
for crack compared to cocaine which was

669
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:15,360
pumped into black communities

670
00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:19,039
racial profiling racist prosecutors

671
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:20,960
it's all slanted against them and so i

672
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,400
thought yeah

673
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:24,480
we already covered how this george floyd

674
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:26,559
situation is fishy and how black lives

675
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:28,000
matter is really just a political

676
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,520
organization

677
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,080
but i thought to just leave it there was

678
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,559
to do a disservice to our darker skinned

679
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:35,919
friends

680
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:37,919
and if i looked back in the archive i

681
00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:40,240
did think that was a hole in our game so

682
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:41,520
i wanted to fill that hole

683
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,640
and now it's filled so i really did try

684
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,039
to avoid the politically charged stuff

685
00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,279
in those episodes and focus on the other

686
00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:51,279
aspects of the criminal justice system

687
00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,960
and the slanted history

688
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:55,760
and the dividing of the working class

689
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:56,960
between black and white

690
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:59,279
and having them fight amongst each other

691
00:25:03,029 --> 00:25:00,880
and i did these shows

692
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,039
not to keep haunting black people with

693
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:05,760
the past as some comments have

694
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:08,960
suggested but just to acknowledge hey

695
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:11,200
you want a conspiracy this is clearly

696
00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:12,799
one and it sucks and we should

697
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:13,760
acknowledge it

698
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,880
the right way and talk around the ops

699
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:18,480
but of course i can't control what a

700
00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:21,520
guest says so there is that

701
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,679
maybe i should have pushed back more but

702
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:25,679
that's not really what i do all the time

703
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:29,039
and i in the case of angela davis wanted

704
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:30,799
to get to certain content that she

705
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:31,600
covers

706
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:34,559
and so if i were to stop and push back

707
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:35,039
on

708
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:37,200
some specific cases we wouldn't have got

709
00:25:40,310 --> 00:25:39,039
to that other content and i thought that

710
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:40,320
was more important

711
00:25:43,830 --> 00:25:43,200
so i bit my tongue doesn't mean i always

712
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:43,840
just

713
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,799
blanket agree and i hope that makes

714
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,760
sense

715
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:50,000
when people say greg you've become a

716
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,240
[\h__\h] for black lives matter it's like no

717
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,960
i already talked about how i feel about

718
00:26:00,230 --> 00:25:57,600
black lives matter as a movement as a

719
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,240
donation collection apparatus that gets

720
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,760
funneled into the dnc

721
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:04,320
and heightens tensions and divides more

722
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,960
than it does

723
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,960
anything to help disadvantaged

724
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,880
communities

725
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,480
and one last thing while we're on this

726
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:11,760
subject and then i'm going to leave it

727
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,559
alone

728
00:26:16,549 --> 00:26:14,880
but outside of just being generally

729
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:16,559
shitty to me the only point

730
00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,000
any critics have really made is to say

731
00:26:24,149 --> 00:26:21,919
it's simple man just look at the crime

732
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:24,159
statistics black men are committing half

733
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:25,840
the crimes but are only six to eight

734
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,640
percent of the population or whatever

735
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,640
and i don't get how those people can't

736
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,039
see that if black men are being looked

737
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,679
at harder and facing harsher sentences

738
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,840
this is going to show in the crime

739
00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:39,360
statistics

740
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,960
if me and my buddy darrell are both

741
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:42,720
driving around with cocaine but darrell

742
00:26:45,669 --> 00:26:44,559
draws more attention from the police

743
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:45,679
because he's black

744
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:48,400
then a quote-unquote crime is logged

745
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:49,520
when he's caught

746
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:52,960
but we both did the same thing

747
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,440
scale that up and i absolutely think the

748
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:56,880
reason on paper

749
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:59,440
black men commit more crimes is because

750
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:00,480
of the law

751
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,919
being way more up in their [\h__\h] we can't

752
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:05,039
just say

753
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:08,320
black people commit more crimes and it

754
00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,080
actually was literally the first thing i

755
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:11,679
asked angela about

756
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:14,400
and she said there is no way to know

757
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:14,880
that

758
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:17,120
but we could say black people get caught

759
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:19,279
committing more crimes and face harsher

760
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,960
punishments for doing the same thing as

761
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:22,080
white people

762
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,240
it's that simple other factors would be

763
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:25,919
poverty a sense that

764
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,559
the only way i can get ahead is to steal

765
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,200
hip-hop culture glorifying criminals

766
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:33,440
a lot of kids not having good role

767
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,640
models and looking

768
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:37,039
to that hip-hop culture for guidance the

769
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:38,320
fact that we've let inner

770
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:42,080
city schools become decrepid

771
00:27:45,590 --> 00:27:43,840
so you can't just look at crimes

772
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,600
committed on paper because the

773
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:47,120
injustices start

774
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:51,600
before that step just because a lot of

775
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:54,799
rich white people don't get duis doesn't

776
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:55,200
mean

777
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,360
a lot of rich white people aren't

778
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:58,640
driving drunk

779
00:28:02,470 --> 00:28:01,200
you know what i'm saying i really am

780
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,480
sick of talking about this

781
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,640
issue and thinking about it after all

782
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,399
the back and forth battles i fought

783
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:08,399
since those shows aired

784
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,840
better to just let it go right but

785
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,399
man this question was about what do i

786
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,880
see for the future of thc and how do i

787
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,000
view my role

788
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,559
in the general conspiracy community way

789
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,840
off track

790
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:24,000
yes i just want to keep doing what i'm

791
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:25,360
doing and

792
00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:27,279
i've thought about going into the

793
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,559
conference scene and

794
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:30,640
building up a few presentations that i

795
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:32,159
could give i've certainly been

796
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,880
asked but i just don't think any

797
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,960
presentation i put together

798
00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,880
would be that original it would be built

799
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,880
off of too many other people's work and

800
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:41,600
it just doesn't

801
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,799
feel right even if i could make a couple

802
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:46,240
grand here and there going to

803
00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,760
conferences with a hollow earth

804
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:49,840
presentation or something

805
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,760
i'm just not sure that that's for me

806
00:28:58,149 --> 00:28:55,760
i'm better in the background and i'd

807
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,159
rather be going to conspiracy adjacent

808
00:29:01,590 --> 00:29:00,399
conferences anyway like the western a

809
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:01,600
price foundation

810
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,640
or aaron murakami's ether physics

811
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:05,919
conferences

812
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,840
more specific niche stuff you know

813
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:11,279
i also thought about putting a book

814
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:13,760
together the higher side guide to life

815
00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:16,640
if you will what i've learned from 10

816
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,960
years in the game with lengthy chunks of

817
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,640
my favorite interviews

818
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:22,640
and that was something i was going to do

819
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,559
this year it's been 10 years this is

820
00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,480
like an anniversary thing

821
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,399
but this year has been so crazy it's

822
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:30,480
like do i write a book that doesn't

823
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,120
mention

824
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:33,840
coronavirus i mean how could it not but

825
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:34,480
then

826
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:38,320
it's not from the very neat 2010 to 2020

827
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:39,039
era

828
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:42,080
so i'm not sure i guess this is still my

829
00:29:45,029 --> 00:29:42,880
plan

830
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:45,039
because i would like to get my best

831
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:46,000
arguments down

832
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,679
and become a better guest for other

833
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:50,159
shows rather than shooting from the hip

834
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,000
like i tend to do and this book writing

835
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,760
compiling process was going to be

836
00:30:01,110 --> 00:29:58,480
designed to help me with that

837
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:01,120
but i still think my role if i know

838
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:01,760
myself

839
00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:04,799
best is that of a connector quote

840
00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,520
unquote and

841
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:08,159
it always kind of has been when my

842
00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,120
buddies come over

843
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,120
i've always got like four new songs i

844
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:13,760
want them to hear two new youtube videos

845
00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:16,960
i enjoy showing people stuff

846
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:20,159
i enjoy curating i guess and i think i'm

847
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,039
good at taking

848
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,480
a person's complex work picking out the

849
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,640
best parts and crafting an interview

850
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:27,840
that weaves us through

851
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:30,480
those highlights i'm a connector between

852
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,679
the every man

853
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,760
and the brightest minds of alternative

854
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:35,440
thought sometimes

855
00:30:38,470 --> 00:30:37,039
people that are quite difficult and my

856
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,480
history in retail

857
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:40,960
i think helps there too i'm not going to

858
00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:41,919
try to

859
00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,919
elbow myself to the front of the stage

860
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,679
i'm comfortable being the

861
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:48,000
dennis rodman of conspiracy podcasting

862
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:49,679
you know the most assists

863
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,240
and also bad hair that i should have

864
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,159
outgrown by now

865
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,880
and i hope that's okay with most people

866
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,840
we sometimes

867
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,640
think we want more but when people start

868
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:02,320
doing things they aren't good at

869
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:05,760
just to serve their ego or to

870
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:08,240
make more money i guess they typically

871
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:10,480
lose all the respect that they'd built

872
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:14,159
up so i hope that makes sense the next

873
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:15,679
question in line

874
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:19,519
is also from yael who says mr carlwood i

875
00:31:24,149 --> 00:31:21,679
have a suggestion for you

876
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,159
it's a great idea but the labor involved

877
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,679
is intensive

878
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:27,120
and you're probably going to want to get

879
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,039
paid because it will take

880
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,679
a good chunk of your week to transcribe

881
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,080
the two hour episodes

882
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:37,440
well if your idea is the transcriptions

883
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:39,440
i just mentioned i want to do that book

884
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:41,600
thing so i probably won't be

885
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:45,120
transcribing episodes unfortunately

886
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,240
but i hear ya it definitely would be a

887
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,840
lot of work

888
00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,600
and i also just don't know how useful it

889
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:53,440
is do people actually want a full

890
00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,880
transcript of an episode i think it'd be

891
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:58,640
much better to have them

892
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:02,080
condensed and edited down into a book

893
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:02,640
form

894
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,799
that just takes the best paragraphs from

895
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,080
here and there and

896
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,159
jumps from show to show you can't do

897
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:10,480
that in transcripts

898
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:13,679
dirk digler 2500 great name

899
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,320
asks about trails in the sky i'm

900
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,480
wondering if you or anyone else has

901
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,640
noticed the sprain this summer

902
00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:22,480
where i live in new york it's been

903
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:23,760
practically every day

904
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:27,200
right before sunrise and sunset mostly

905
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:29,679
well maybe i've been distracted but i

906
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:31,519
actually haven't noticed as much

907
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:34,559
spraying in san diego this year

908
00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:38,000
in fact i would say i have noticed less

909
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:40,399
but again i probably would have to spend

910
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,039
some time

911
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:44,159
actually reminding myself to look up

912
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,519
actually let's see it's a clear one

913
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,919
today

914
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:51,279
but we probably all should remind

915
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:55,360
ourselves to look up once in a while

916
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:58,720
now here is actually a sad one it comes

917
00:33:02,710 --> 00:32:59,120
from

918
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,720
eddie and he writes hi greg i am

919
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,039
a long time listener and a plus member i

920
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:07,120
don't normally do forums but i wanted to

921
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:09,440
get in touch with you about the tragic

922
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,279
passing of your former guest david crow

923
00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:15,600
i don't know whether you kept in touch

924
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,519
with him at all since interviewing him

925
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,000
i haven't i've been listening to his

926
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:22,159
infectious myth podcast since hearing

927
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,200
him on your show

928
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:25,440
i downloaded his most recent show about

929
00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:26,399
a week ago

930
00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:28,240
and heard him giving news about his

931
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:30,159
recent cancer diagnosis

932
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:32,799
and the treatments he was trying on his

933
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:36,240
last show published on the 7th of july

934
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,200
which was his third cancer update he

935
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,120
sounded painfully ill

936
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:43,279
after hearing it i was searching online

937
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:44,559
to see if there had been any updates

938
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:45,840
from him since then

939
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,000
there is nothing to be found i sent a

940
00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:50,320
donation and message to his website

941
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,000
email this morning to give him

942
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:54,720
my best wishes for his return to health

943
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:55,679
sadly

944
00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:58,000
his son aaron replied to me today

945
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,200
letting me know

946
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:01,360
my dad passed away four weeks ago from

947
00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:03,840
his short battle with cancer

948
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,679
i asked him if i could pass this message

949
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:07,760
on to you to give condolences on your

950
00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:08,560
show

951
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,720
as again i have not seen it mentioned at

952
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,320
all online

953
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:14,639
and he was happy with that anyway love

954
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:17,839
the show keep up the great work

955
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,159
wow and that interview just happened in

956
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,320
march on gordon's recommendation

957
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,639
actually that's how i found david

958
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,480
and i really loved having him on the

959
00:34:30,869 --> 00:34:28,399
podcast

960
00:34:31,669 --> 00:34:30,879
his work is a great ongoing resource for

961
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,679
pushing back

962
00:34:36,310 --> 00:34:34,399
on germ theory he was a very smart guy

963
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,320
always focused on the data

964
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,399
and did not shy away from addressing

965
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:40,159
things head-on because he was so

966
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:42,079
confident in his position

967
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,079
he even did at least one debate show

968
00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:46,240
with the doctor on coronavirus earlier

969
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:47,679
this year

970
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:50,159
but it's just it's really sad he was a

971
00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:52,079
really unique person in this space i'm

972
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:53,520
lucky i got to interview him

973
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,240
at least one time check out the

974
00:35:00,390 --> 00:34:58,240
contagious myth podcast and

975
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,400
any of his work while you still can in

976
00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:02,320
honor because

977
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:05,680
i'd say he has a legacy to be proud of

978
00:35:11,829 --> 00:35:08,800
and that's really the q a forum

979
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,839
as well and we can i guess now awkwardly

980
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,920
segue into something i expected to be a

981
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:15,520
little fun and cathartic and that's

982
00:35:17,990 --> 00:35:17,119
reading some of the harsher comments

983
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,000
i've gotten

984
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:20,560
similar to jimmy kimmel having

985
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,359
celebrities read mean tweets

986
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,280
and this one isn't so bad but the guy

987
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:27,680
wrote it on the smith and hattery

988
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,400
policing black bodies episode on social

989
00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:31,680
media

990
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:34,079
shows like this are what keep me from

991
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:35,599
supporting thc

992
00:35:41,910 --> 00:35:38,960
every few episodes is very white man bad

993
00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:41,920
and i think he's propaganda good enough

994
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,440
to listen to every week though

995
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:47,520
i mean wow this is the sort of thing i

996
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:50,480
get at least once a month probably more

997
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,720
where someone says i listen to every

998
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:54,240
episode you do

999
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,359
but i don't like when you cover x y or z

1000
00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:59,680
and so i think you're propaganda and i

1001
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:01,760
won't support you

1002
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:03,920
you're content to listen to propaganda

1003
00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:04,960
week after week

1004
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:07,599
you enjoy most of the shows i do but you

1005
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:08,000
stop

1006
00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:11,359
short of signing up for plus teach their

1007
00:36:16,470 --> 00:36:13,359
own but that's a very frustrating

1008
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,480
thing for someone in my position to read

1009
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:18,960
if i had that person's ip address i

1010
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,839
would say cool

1011
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:22,480
i'm propaganda you can have that opinion

1012
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,599
but you are also

1013
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:25,520
blocked from listening i'm doing that

1014
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:26,720
for your own good

1015
00:36:31,349 --> 00:36:29,680
let's just walk away from each other

1016
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:31,359
obviously i can't do that but if you

1017
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,520
think i'm propaganda back it up

1018
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,920
from who because i have a facebook

1019
00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,920
history that goes back to the beginning

1020
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,320
of facebook not one that i'm proud of

1021
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:42,000
with pictures of me in college and all

1022
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,440
that kind of stuff

1023
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,520
but there's certainly no indication that

1024
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,720
i've ever been

1025
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:49,280
anything than what i say i am a regular

1026
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,000
guy

1027
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:52,320
who grew up in missouri dropped out of

1028
00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:53,520
college and had no

1029
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:55,599
options in life but to start my own

1030
00:36:58,710 --> 00:36:56,720
thing

1031
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,720
my dad was an accountant for a company

1032
00:37:02,069 --> 00:37:00,480
that sold construction equipment

1033
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,079
there's no connection to anything

1034
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:04,320
anywhere if you want to claim something

1035
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:06,079
then prove it

1036
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,160
it's okay to say that you think that i

1037
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,320
am wrong about some things

1038
00:37:13,750 --> 00:37:13,200
of course one uneducated guy doing all

1039
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,760
of this

1040
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:16,400
on my own might make some poor guest

1041
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,240
choices here and there

1042
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:20,079
but i think i have a good track record

1043
00:37:24,710 --> 00:37:22,560
for being a one-man band

1044
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:24,720
and just because you disagree with me on

1045
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:25,599
a certain guest

1046
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:28,480
choice doesn't mean i'm connected to

1047
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:29,440
some group

1048
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:32,720
feeding me white man bad guests

1049
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:35,920
to pepper end the rotation i'm not white

1050
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,720
man bad

1051
00:37:40,390 --> 00:37:39,359
i'm american empire bad i'm british

1052
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,400
empire bad

1053
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,720
i'm capstone cabal which is mainly

1054
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:44,560
light-skinned bad

1055
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,599
but i regularly say we didn't trash the

1056
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,520
planet major corporations did

1057
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,359
we regular people don't have the

1058
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:53,200
resources to do the damage the one

1059
00:37:57,270 --> 00:37:54,400
percent does

1060
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:57,280
but the media puts it on the people as a

1061
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:57,839
whole

1062
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,240
and that's the patent switch but it

1063
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,320
really is just something people say

1064
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:04,560
so that they can listen without

1065
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,320
supporting me well

1066
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,320
he's good but he's not perfect so i'll

1067
00:38:12,230 --> 00:38:10,320
just listen to everything for free

1068
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:12,240
because who knows what he'd do with my

1069
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:13,680
eight dollars

1070
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:16,160
i don't know what i'd be supporting it's

1071
00:38:19,430 --> 00:38:17,839
like i really hope these people are

1072
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,440
digging into the lives of their

1073
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,839
waitresses and their uber drivers

1074
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,520
to make sure that their tips are going

1075
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:25,119
to be used appropriately

1076
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,720
because that's how they treat me you

1077
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:28,880
know what i'm saying for some reason my

1078
00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:29,599
whole life

1079
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:32,160
and show archive needs to be completely

1080
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,960
perfect

1081
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:35,280
yet we give tips to all sorts of people

1082
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:36,240
for way less

1083
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,920
and they could be buying meth with your

1084
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:40,160
money for all you know

1085
00:38:43,750 --> 00:38:42,240
i'm just messing around but let's do

1086
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:43,760
some rapid fire ones

1087
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,400
we have no quarter for the communist

1088
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:48,480
greg is a cuck for black lives matter

1089
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:50,880
oh and this was a good one but earmuffs

1090
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,040
for those who are sensitive out there

1091
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,520
i used to love thc then the [\h__\h]

1092
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:56,720
turned off comments

1093
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:59,760
what a snowflake and let's talk about

1094
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,000
that

1095
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,640
for a second i've had youtube comments

1096
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:04,240
on since 2010

1097
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:07,040
and i never cared what anyone said there

1098
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:08,480
well i turned them off

1099
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:11,119
after angela davis why well if you think

1100
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,400
it's for my benefit

1101
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:14,880
it's not yes it's refreshing to not

1102
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:17,119
actually have to hear all that noise

1103
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:20,560
but it was all racist [\h__\h] and slurs

1104
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:23,520
hurled at my guest that made me do it i

1105
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:25,280
do not want to invite someone on this

1106
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,079
show

1107
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:29,040
send them links to the uploads and then

1108
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,839
have them see

1109
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:32,079
comments that drop n-bombs on them

1110
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,000
that's super embarrassing

1111
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:36,400
and i'm not gonna let that happen so now

1112
00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:38,560
the comments are just off

1113
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,480
i guess those people can go cry about it

1114
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:42,000
somewhere else like on

1115
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,200
itunes so if we're gonna keep with this

1116
00:39:49,430 --> 00:39:46,960
negative comment theme let's look at

1117
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:49,440
some recent reviews

1118
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:53,440
for me itunes reviews are for

1119
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,040
rating a show as a whole and when i see

1120
00:40:03,109 --> 00:39:59,599
reviews that give the entire show

1121
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,119
a one-star rating over a single episode

1122
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:04,960
that's kind of frustrating because those

1123
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,800
same people aren't giving me five-star

1124
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,640
reviews for the episodes they like

1125
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,480
they take those ones for granted but

1126
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:12,480
here we go

1127
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:16,400
one star titled decent dot dot dot butt

1128
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:18,720
they say so i like your subject matter a

1129
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:19,599
lot vast

1130
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,920
and diverse but as with everything else

1131
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,160
these days your attempt at a money grab

1132
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,240
is disheartening to say the least

1133
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:28,079
you do realize that nationally

1134
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:30,720
syndicated shows like coast to coast am

1135
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,880
charge less a month than you do just

1136
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,200
saying with an outrageously better

1137
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:37,200
archive and production value

1138
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:40,000
your opening soliloquies are fun here

1139
00:40:43,990 --> 00:40:41,280
and there

1140
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,000
lately though i think they feel forced

1141
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,680
but nevertheless

1142
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,520
that's your shtick can't hate on it

1143
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:49,680
overall i listen to every episode

1144
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:52,160
ding ding ding just won't pay for the

1145
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:52,960
second hour

1146
00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:56,160
it is a shame really well thank you for

1147
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:57,680
listening to every episode

1148
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:01,040
and giving me a one star review and well

1149
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:01,920
if you

1150
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,680
want to call what i do a money grab i

1151
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:05,280
would ask how many other people you know

1152
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,000
who do what they

1153
00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:09,200
do for free do you work for free

1154
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:10,800
you think george nori isn't getting a

1155
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,480
fat paycheck

1156
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:14,720
i hope you reviewed coast to coast

1157
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,119
poorly because of all the ads they have

1158
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:19,520
there's an ad break every 10 minutes and

1159
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:20,319
they still

1160
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:23,119
charge for memberships that's not a

1161
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:25,680
money grab

1162
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:28,800
let's go rapid fire again cove idiot one

1163
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,520
star

1164
00:41:32,550 --> 00:41:31,680
now he's on the coronavirus hoax stuff

1165
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:32,560
what a jerk

1166
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:35,440
was good crap now forum borealis and

1167
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,480
mysterious universe are way better

1168
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:40,880
next one unsubscribe i've been a

1169
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:41,599
listener

1170
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:44,480
for years but i'm unsubscribing after

1171
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:45,520
the string of

1172
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:49,520
woke blm anti-racist guests

1173
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:52,720
okay you could just skip them also

1174
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,440
next this podcast is stupid you should

1175
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:56,880
be ashamed of yourselves

1176
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:59,280
well i'm one person so shows how much

1177
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:00,640
you know about the show

1178
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,640
but i will take all the blame for the

1179
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,480
stupid podcast

1180
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,960
another terrible episode keep spreading

1181
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,560
dangerous info loser

1182
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,680
why did i even give you a second chance

1183
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:13,680
see again a review that was triggered

1184
00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:16,000
apparently by a single episode but

1185
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:19,839
it is a hit against my show as a whole

1186
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:22,160
next person says look elsewhere great

1187
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,280
until you realize

1188
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,760
half the episode is behind a paywall

1189
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:27,520
that's nice again i hope you have a

1190
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:28,079
business

1191
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,079
so i can give you a shitty review on

1192
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:32,720
yelp because you didn't do the work

1193
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:36,640
for me for free would that be fair

1194
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:39,760
next one star review not good everything

1195
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,319
about this show is terrible

1196
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:44,880
next one says show has gone downhill the

1197
00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,119
show used to be about conspiracies

1198
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,760
and now it's all about health concerns

1199
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:52,079
boring

1200
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,440
i think greg is afraid of being

1201
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,319
de-platformed stopped listening

1202
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,400
well that's nice loyalty because

1203
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,400
d-platforming is a serious issue for

1204
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:01,760
people who are trying

1205
00:43:05,270 --> 00:43:04,160
to give you an alternative view on

1206
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,280
things

1207
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:07,359
it's nice to know you have absolutely no

1208
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:10,240
empathy for those concerns

1209
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:12,160
and here's a fun one that i don't

1210
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:15,119
understand at all

1211
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:17,359
loved this show before but it's too

1212
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:18,960
alt-right trump lately

1213
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:21,119
this was one of my favorite podcasts

1214
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:22,319
greg has become

1215
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:26,800
a maga sucker liked you dude for years

1216
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:30,000
tried but placating to in-cell

1217
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,160
trumptards has become too much to

1218
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:33,599
tolerate

1219
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:37,040
wow like is this even real how is thc

1220
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,880
one of your favorite podcasts but you

1221
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:41,200
think i've taken some alt-right turn

1222
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,240
i just don't get that the chill for blm

1223
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,160
comments at least have a few shows they

1224
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:48,319
can source to make their point

1225
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,240
i feel like i'm causing more friction

1226
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:52,640
with the q crowd than almost all of my

1227
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,520
peers

1228
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,839
most shows i check out are either

1229
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,760
entertaining it heavily or trying to be

1230
00:44:00,390 --> 00:43:59,119
neutral because they don't want to lose

1231
00:44:02,150 --> 00:44:00,400
those listeners so

1232
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:02,160
i think i've been pretty honest about

1233
00:44:07,829 --> 00:44:04,640
that the other day someone sent me this

1234
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:07,839
video of a pardoning that trump did of a

1235
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,720
black woman

1236
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,359
alice johnson first time drug offender

1237
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,800
non-violent

1238
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,400
and they thought this was some kind of

1239
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,560
huge thing but i see it as doing the

1240
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:18,640
bare minimum to try to appease these

1241
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:19,440
people who

1242
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:22,160
think he's some kind of savior why not

1243
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,800
pardon

1244
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:24,880
all first-time drug offenders that are

1245
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:25,839
non-violent

1246
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:29,119
in a big giant stadium he could take the

1247
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,640
stage and talk about how

1248
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:32,880
he's lived a sober life because he had a

1249
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:34,400
brother that was an alcoholic

1250
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,040
and you know that not everyone had that

1251
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,040
same example to see in their life

1252
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,200
and people make mistakes and you want to

1253
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:43,359
rework the laws in your next term

1254
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:46,400
but right now all first-time non-violent

1255
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:48,319
drug offenders are free to reclaim their

1256
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:49,839
lives because this should have never

1257
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,480
happened

1258
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,800
and you should have redemption it would

1259
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,160
be one of the most powerful

1260
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:56,240
moments in american history but of

1261
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,280
course he'll never do that

1262
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,680
anyway next one says is this fun or is

1263
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,359
this just me bitching but

1264
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:05,920
regardless says greg is a phenomenal

1265
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,280
interviewer

1266
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,839
however he is at alex jones level when

1267
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,920
it comes to using fear and manipulation

1268
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,680
to get people to join his plus

1269
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:16,160
paid level it's a shame too because he's

1270
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:17,440
doing great work

1271
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:19,200
and i understand everyone has to make a

1272
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:21,040
living to me it seems like he's

1273
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,000
knowledgeable

1274
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:24,160
but uses it simply to attract members

1275
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,200
and doesn't actually

1276
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:27,920
care too much on a personal level he

1277
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:30,560
also possesses a really dark world view

1278
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,800
which i am sure is to bait people by

1279
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:34,880
making them think they need his real

1280
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,400
info to fight back

1281
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:38,319
or if he actually believes what he's

1282
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,040
saying it's hard to tell anymore

1283
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,960
everyone in this field of research seems

1284
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,480
to sell out eventually

1285
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,480
which is at this point one of the only

1286
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:47,920
ways to even

1287
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:50,960
talk about the stuff he talks about i've

1288
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:52,960
cooled off on this podcast because of

1289
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,359
all

1290
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,440
the preceding reasons but i try to just

1291
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,680
take what good knowledge i can

1292
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,079
and not be bothered by greg saving all

1293
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:01,839
the real meat of the interview

1294
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,200
for his paid section lame for me helping

1295
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,520
people comes first i'd much rather

1296
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:10,160
someone ask for donations than pull this

1297
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:11,119
[\h__\h]

1298
00:46:14,790 --> 00:46:13,359
it's not right to say you care and then

1299
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,800
put all the important parts of the

1300
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,240
interview behind a paywall

1301
00:46:20,550 --> 00:46:18,000
he would easily make more money on a

1302
00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:20,560
value for value type donation system not

1303
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:21,200
true

1304
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:23,359
because i would support him for one but

1305
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,960
so would a lot of other people who feel

1306
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,720
baited and manipulated into getting

1307
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,079
what's behind his paywall

1308
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,079
the truth is the truth and no one has a

1309
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:32,480
right to hoard it as their own

1310
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:35,680
well boohoo i actually did a value for

1311
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:38,319
value model i took donations for a long

1312
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:38,880
time

1313
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:41,040
i even gave half back to a random

1314
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:42,400
listener i don't know

1315
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:46,000
anyone who has ever done that

1316
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:47,760
maybe because it's probably illegal to

1317
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,599
run an international digital raffle and

1318
00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,440
i shouldn't have done it but i tried

1319
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:53,280
i definitely tried and it made a

1320
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,920
difference to people when it happened

1321
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,920
and i've also brought this up before

1322
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,240
but when i was doing a donation basis or

1323
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,240
a value for value basis i had a few

1324
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:04,560
people donating large amounts of money

1325
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:07,119
hundreds in some cases thousands

1326
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:08,800
and they would give me guess they wanted

1327
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,440
me to interview

1328
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,400
and that felt really sketchy so you want

1329
00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:16,000
to talk about selling out and being

1330
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:16,880
compromised

1331
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,200
i was closer to it in those moments than

1332
00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:21,440
i am now that i have democratized

1333
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:23,680
thc i asked for eight bucks a month it

1334
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,640
is a

1335
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,599
cocktail at a bar i know there are

1336
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,680
guests we have sometimes who

1337
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,520
make it a point to say all the content

1338
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:32,880
they put out is free

1339
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:35,760
but those are usually older people who

1340
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:36,319
have had

1341
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:38,800
a whole lifetime to make money and have

1342
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:39,680
had a career

1343
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:43,040
somewhere else and so they can do that

1344
00:47:48,069 --> 00:47:45,680
i tried other formats first when i was

1345
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,079
most broke and most desperate i tried to

1346
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:49,920
just do other things first

1347
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,119
and it wasn't working it's very easy to

1348
00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:55,359
say that you would support me if i

1349
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,559
didn't have a paywall

1350
00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:01,440
but then not do it when i do and i've

1351
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,200
also said this

1352
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:05,680
conversations naturally get deeper and

1353
00:48:08,790 --> 00:48:06,960
more interesting

1354
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:08,800
and it would be really awkward for the

1355
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,319
first hour to be paid

1356
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,119
so it really doesn't make a whole lot of

1357
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,680
sense to do it any other way

1358
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:18,400
and i would also ask those people who

1359
00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:21,040
have a problem with my second hour

1360
00:48:26,150 --> 00:48:23,520
if you think i'm trying to screw you

1361
00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:26,160
over go and look at some of the

1362
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,319
lengths of the free show i'm often

1363
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:30,480
putting an extra 10 minutes in because i

1364
00:48:33,990 --> 00:48:32,079
want the guests to finish making their

1365
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:34,000
point i want it to sound really good as

1366
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,520
a whole i do that for the guests benefit

1367
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,599
and for the listeners benefit it doesn't

1368
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:40,880
help me

1369
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,359
if i was that greedy i'd do it the way

1370
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,440
i've seen some other shows do it where

1371
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,839
they cut it right at an hour right in

1372
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:49,520
the middle of a sentence sometimes or

1373
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:50,160
they

1374
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:54,800
provocative question as a tease to you

1375
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,160
i don't do that and i also resent the

1376
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,079
idea that i have a very dark world view

1377
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:03,119
i don't think i use fear to sell plus

1378
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:04,720
although sometimes i have mentioned that

1379
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,440
when a guest gets really extreme

1380
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,920
and talks about something that is maybe

1381
00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,839
quite polarizing i'm happy that it's

1382
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:13,119
just the inner circle

1383
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,640
because i could get de-platformed for

1384
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:18,160
some things but it wouldn't happen if it

1385
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:19,680
was in the second hour and i don't have

1386
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:20,960
to hear the feedback

1387
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,920
on something that's really controversial

1388
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:25,200
that they might say when they're

1389
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:26,480
comfortable

1390
00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,200
90 minutes into a show that's something

1391
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:31,359
i hear crow say a lot free speech

1392
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,920
is only really unleashed in the paid

1393
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:35,520
portion of the show

1394
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,079
i wouldn't say it's a sales tactic it's

1395
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,920
just the way it is

1396
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,520
complain to the people that are doing

1397
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,760
the deep platforming not those whose

1398
00:49:47,910 --> 00:49:45,760
livelihoods are hanging out over the

1399
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:47,920
chopping block

1400
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,960
the next one says cool guests two stars

1401
00:49:54,710 --> 00:49:52,720
love that dr stephen greer was on the

1402
00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:54,720
podcast the host was kind of rude to him

1403
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:55,839
though

1404
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:57,440
well i got nothing really to say about

1405
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,720
that but that is uh

1406
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:02,720
the list of negative reviews just from

1407
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,480
the last few months

1408
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,720
of course we do have a decent amount of

1409
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:08,720
good reviews peppered in there too

1410
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:11,200
they're just not as fun to read for

1411
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,160
example

1412
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,800
great podcast five stars stephen greer

1413
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,200
is kind of a dick

1414
00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:20,240
he said it not me and one more uh

1415
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,559
three stars which of course three stars

1416
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:24,400
is like a bad review right it's gotta be

1417
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,359
one or five

1418
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,440
that's just the way the world works love

1419
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:29,119
ya but greg you're

1420
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:31,040
hiding behind a paywall so i'll say it

1421
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,520
here the reason he manages to pronounce

1422
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,280
all those strange names so well is

1423
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:36,800
because he pronounces many of them

1424
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:38,400
incorrectly not that he's wrong

1425
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,400
on the facts well okay i have no idea

1426
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,400
who you're referring to again

1427
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:46,480
and you can keep your love if it comes

1428
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,720
with a hit against the show

1429
00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,800
listen and enjoy it and go about your

1430
00:50:53,990 --> 00:50:52,240
day if you don't want to sign up for

1431
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,000
plus no problem

1432
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,480
but take what you get and at a minimum

1433
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:57,760
just don't [\h__\h] me

1434
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:01,680
just don't trash thc on itunes

1435
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,160
was that fun i'm not sure i expected it

1436
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:06,160
to be more fun but it kind of turned

1437
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,839
into a [\h__\h] fest and i didn't really

1438
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:09,440
want that and i'm really not that upset

1439
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,400
about it

1440
00:51:15,109 --> 00:51:12,240
but i guess it works maybe i just need

1441
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:15,119
to not comment on each one

1442
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:18,079
but to quote the ever-wise squeak

1443
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:19,200
scolari

1444
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:22,720
this is my job you [\h__\h] i take these

1445
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:23,599
things

1446
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,839
a little harder now because everything

1447
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,440
is so volatile

1448
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,280
and i worry about the economic impacts

1449
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:31,520
2020 is going to have on our listeners

1450
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,599
and my wife and i want to start trying

1451
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,440
to have kids next year the shaman was

1452
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,280
supposed to be an ending to

1453
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:39,599
one chapter and the start of a new and

1454
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:41,599
it probably will be

1455
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:44,319
but those wheels are turning and thc has

1456
00:51:48,390 --> 00:51:46,720
to work i have no other option

1457
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,400
but if i only cared about the money as

1458
00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,000
some of these people suggest

1459
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,640
i'd be feeding people queuing on because

1460
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:54,640
that's the biggest trend in our culture

1461
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,079
right now

1462
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:58,000
yes i did some flat earth shows because

1463
00:52:02,710 --> 00:51:59,359
i was genuinely

1464
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:02,720
curious how that was getting so popular

1465
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,319
and then some interesting points were

1466
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:06,480
made and eric debay's 50 proofs the

1467
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:07,839
earth is flat

1468
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,160
but once it took over and drove a wedge

1469
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:11,760
through the community i stopped and

1470
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:12,480
thought

1471
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,400
wait a minute this isn't just fun and

1472
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,640
games here anymore this is going too far

1473
00:52:20,710 --> 00:52:18,480
and i try to be like all right all right

1474
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,720
let's get back to reality a bit

1475
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,480
and i definitely would have avoided

1476
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,400
covering black issues in the criminal

1477
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:26,480
justice system if i didn't genuinely

1478
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:27,599
care

1479
00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:30,000
i wouldn't push back against maga people

1480
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:31,599
if i just cared about collecting money

1481
00:52:35,430 --> 00:52:32,400
because

1482
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,440
these things caused me to get a slew

1483
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:38,240
of cancellations and one star reviews

1484
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,000
and i thought that might be coming but

1485
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:42,480
whatever it was an important issue to me

1486
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:43,359
you think i

1487
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,359
covered policing black bodies because i

1488
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:47,760
expected a bunch of new plus members to

1489
00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:48,880
rush in

1490
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:52,079
please now the critics who have said

1491
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,800
that those

1492
00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:54,880
criminal justice shows felt like

1493
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,440
something they could hear on npr

1494
00:53:00,870 --> 00:52:59,520
i think that is a fair criticism i

1495
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:00,880
understand that you are in it for

1496
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:02,720
something more provocative when it comes

1497
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:03,520
to thc

1498
00:53:08,790 --> 00:53:06,640
and to that i would say noted

1499
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,800
it might be too tame for the audience i

1500
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:10,640
built and that's different than it being

1501
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,559
unimportant or inaccurate

1502
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,559
so i have thought about that and it's

1503
00:53:18,230 --> 00:53:16,319
factored into every guest i put on the

1504
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:18,240
schedule since that first angela davis

1505
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:19,359
show came out

1506
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,839
phoenix aurelius bruce fenton josh

1507
00:53:25,750 --> 00:53:23,280
cutchen and tim renner

1508
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,760
chris knowles sally fallon morel and

1509
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:26,960
derek bros

1510
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:29,599
and i will continue to keep that in mind

1511
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:31,200
with the angle that i don't care about

1512
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:33,280
these things and i'm unwilling to

1513
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,640
challenge dominant themes in the

1514
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,240
conspiracy culture because this is all

1515
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:37,839
for a cash grab

1516
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:39,359
i think i've made my case that that's

1517
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:41,520
not true it's just my job and i try to

1518
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:42,240
make it

1519
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:45,200
high level this is all good fun because

1520
00:54:06,390 --> 00:53:45,440
i

1521
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:06,400
and so many of you guys are super

1522
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:07,760
generous and just

1523
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:10,880
cool people who enjoy the show so i hope

1524
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:11,760
it

1525
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:15,440
easier

1526
00:54:19,109 --> 00:54:17,119
but you don't have to take it so

1527
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:19,119
seriously that something i said once

1528
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:20,480
makes you 100

1529
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,680
sure that i'm in the conspiracy our

1530
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:25,280
guests bring some heavy and important

1531
00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,160
information

1532
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,480
but we have to be able to put it down

1533
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,640
sometimes for our own mental health that

1534
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:31,359
is in the mix

1535
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:34,400
too it is funny that some people have

1536
00:54:37,990 --> 00:54:36,079
this impression that i'm milking my

1537
00:54:40,470 --> 00:54:38,000
audience sitting on a pile of money

1538
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:40,480
but in my mind i'm thinking is this too

1539
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:41,760
risky of a career

1540
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:44,960
to have a child can thc support a family

1541
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,160
for 18 years uninterrupted

1542
00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:50,160
it's like my thought process is night

1543
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:51,280
and day

1544
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:54,079
but there is no precedent for podcasting

1545
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:56,000
i guess there are radio hosts who have

1546
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,920
done it for 30 years have had long

1547
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,280
careers

1548
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:01,920
and that's kind of all i hope to do

1549
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:03,920
eventually i'm sure i will try to do

1550
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:04,720
more

1551
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:07,440
but i'm also proud and fulfilled being a

1552
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,319
connector

1553
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,480
for valuable researchers that i don't

1554
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:13,599
think get enough credit

1555
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,359
but i think that's going to conclude the

1556
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,520
first joint session podcast i really

1557
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:19,280
hope it didn't come off as just a [\h__\h]

1558
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,319
fest

1559
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,520
i just happened to do two polarizing

1560
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,240
episodes recently and reading harsh

1561
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:28,160
negative feedback is something that

1562
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,920
i think i would enjoy if i was a

1563
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:31,680
listener it's brutal

1564
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:34,640
but it's also kind of funny i'm guessing

1565
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,440
there will be

1566
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:36,960
less of that in the future because there

1567
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:39,359
will be more material in the forum to

1568
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:41,119
talk about rather than just the negative

1569
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,000
reviews

1570
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,720
but we'll wait and see on that too i

1571
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:46,960
hope you guys participate i am sorry

1572
00:55:50,390 --> 00:55:48,640
that we're doing it this way instead of

1573
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:50,400
the simple call-in

1574
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,920
but like i mentioned the beginning it

1575
00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:53,440
solves a lot of issues people were

1576
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:55,440
having with that format

1577
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:57,920
i am so thankful for you guys i will

1578
00:56:02,309 --> 00:55:59,760
keep trying to do the best i can

1579
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:02,319
because i do value our exchange and i

1580
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,559
never want to take it for granted

1581
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:06,160
i'm going to be putting some more money

1582
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,000
into the plus side of the website for a

1583
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:10,160
few requested features that i think will

1584
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:11,839
actually be useful

1585
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:13,359
but i am well aware that if it ain't

1586
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:15,280
broke we don't need to fix it learn that

1587
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,799
lesson the hard way when i worked with

1588
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:19,119
that shitty seo marketing company last

1589
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:20,240
year

1590
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,440
which is another reason that i'm

1591
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:23,040
thankful that you guys were patient with

1592
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,200
me and kept the faith

1593
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:27,440
i hope you're finding the right way to

1594
00:56:30,390 --> 00:56:28,240
talk to

1595
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:30,400
people you care about about these

1596
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:32,240
serious issues

1597
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:33,680
and we're gonna do the best we can we're

1598
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,359
gonna get through this thing

1599
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:38,000
but i gotta go people pottery barn waits

1600
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:39,119
for no man

1601
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:40,720
thanks for tuning in to the first joint

1602
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:42,400
session podcast episode

1603
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,400
i'll be back with more sweet sweet

1604
00:56:48,510 --> 00:56:46,000
conspiratorial goodness

1605
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:48,520
before you know it take care

1606
00:57:12,309 --> 00:56:53,280
[Music]

1607
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:12,319
drinking a little drink smoking a little

1608
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:13,599
smoke

1609
00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:17,599
knowing all history's in jewelry

1610
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:21,440
from titanic and apollo to dollar

1611
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:24,559
sun hollows her saturn

1612
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:27,839
secrets arrived

1613
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,520
from chemistry to policy or quantum

1614
00:57:42,190 --> 00:57:37,829
don't forget the moon's render

1615
00:57:55,850 --> 00:57:42,200
it's tickled behind and eleanor's

1616
00:57:55,860 --> 00:58:06,829
[Music]